{"id":6918,"date":"2013-08-13T15:21:56","date_gmt":"2013-08-13T20:21:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/leavittbrothers.com\/blog\/?p=6918"},"modified":"2013-08-13T15:21:56","modified_gmt":"2013-08-13T20:21:56","slug":"is-carl-icahn-a-modern-day-pump-and-dump-artist","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blog.leavittbrothers.com\/?p=6918","title":{"rendered":"Is Carl Icahn A Modern Day Pump and Dump Artist"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Carl Icahn announced today on Twitter than he had taken a large position in AAPL and that he had just gotten off the phone with AAPL CEO Tim Cook. On the news, AAPL shot up (see intraday chart below).<!--more--><br \/>\n<\/span><br \/>\n<img src=\"http:\/\/leavittbrothers.com\/blog\/i\/aapl081313.png\" alt=\"\" \/><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Icahn is a billionaire. I&#8217;m going to assume he&#8217;s got lots of smart lawyers around him telling him what he can and can&#8217;t say, so what he did today probably isn&#8217;t illegal. But it&#8217;s still very shady. I don&#8217;t see it as being any different than a penny stock pump-n-dump operation. Give me one reason why he feels compelled to announce his position to the world. One reason. One set of conditions that would necessitate this. There isn&#8217;t one. If he&#8217;s so good at what he does, why doesn&#8217;t he quietly go about his business? <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Bill Ackman shorted Herbalife and not only announced it, he&#8217;s been on a nonstop campaign to convince everyone he&#8217;s right. This included a three hour presentation at a conference where he painstakingly went through dozens of slides in an attempt to prove his point.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Dan Loeb went public with his position in YHOO. After the stock went up a bunch (albeit several months later), he dumped the position. He wasn&#8217;t a sharehold activist. He wasn&#8217;t looking out for shareholder rights or anything like that. He cared about one thing and one thing only &#8211; making a quick buck, which he did.<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: medium;\">I don&#8217;t see how what these fund managers do is any different than a penny stock pump-n-dump operation. Wall St. has become a joke. Many traders went to jail for running pump-n-dump operations back in the day, but the practice continues. Except in steady of buying 20K shares of a penny stock and then announcing it in a chat room, billionaire fund managers do the same thing with more money using the financial media. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: medium;\">It reminds me of when Maria would report from the floor of the NYSE (yes I&#8217;m dating myself, but that&#8217;s the last time I turned on CNBC). Cramer, would ran a hedge fund at the time, would slip her some BS info about a stock. The stock would pop (or drop), and Cramer&#8217;s fund would take a quick profit. Rinse, repeat, rinse, repeat. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: medium;\">And by the way, Warren Buffett does this too. He&#8217;s not shy about telling the world about a stock he just bought. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Does this affect me? Not one iota. But it still bothers me that this kind of stuff goes on. <\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-size: medium;\">Oh well. 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